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July 14th, 2004, 09:19 PM
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2/17/2004 Margaret Cho
Step up your game. No matter who you are or what you feel about homosexuality. If you are gay, lesbian, transgendered, bisexual, bi-curious, metrosexual, heterosexual, celibate, hermaphrodite, a satyr, a succubus, a fucking human being - and especially if you are a fucking human being, and really want to live in a country where all people are equal - not separate, not 'civil-unionized,' not lied to about your rights - realize that same sex marriage will not harm you. It will not make gay people more 'gay.' It will not make you gay unless you already are. It will not make your children gay, unless they are anyway. It will not change your life in the least, unless you are gay and want to marry your partner. Then it will transform your life, because it will change your status from second class citizen to first, where we should be.
If we are not absolutely strident, insistent, unflinching about lifting the ban on same sex marriage, if we settle on our presidential hopefuls fence sitting position of 'civil union,' then we might as well forfeit the Constitution, cross out all the Amendments, knock down the Statue of Liberty (it was a gift from France anyway - those peace lovers - who needs 'em?), reverse Roe vs. Wade, pretend Stonewall never happened, reinstate Prohibition, not let women vote, derail the Underground Railroad, bring back slavery, take out all the tea bags from the Boston harbors, give Patrick Henry death instead of liberty, because he's fucking dead now anyway, knock Paul Revere off the horse, realize that George Washington lied, albeit posthumously, besides, all those dudes had slaves anyway, get back on the Mayflower and go back to England. The only problem would be trying to bring the native Americans back to life and restore their nations that we so cavalierly destroyed in our own pursuit of religious 'freedom.'
Without the reality of same sex marriage, there is no freedom. This is not an argument about homosexuality, God, what is in the Bible, what is in your moral value system or what you feel is ethical. It is a no-argument zone. No spins here, not in the least. It is about upholding the idea that we are the representation of freedom in the world. That to be an American is to be free. Unless we have same sex marriage legalized and recognized by every state, then we are not free. We are hypocrites, for we are allowing a certain group of our population freedoms while denying others those same rights. It is discrimination and that is that. If the theocrats successfully ban same sex marriage, then what is next? What rights go up in front of the unjust jury then?
Shout out to the NASCAR dads: If maintaining the 'sanctity of marriage' is what is going to keep you in support of George W. Bush, remember that your little boys and girls sitting next to you now at the races will be old enough in the next four years and going off to fight another needless war to lose their lives for a country that you falsely believe is free. A vote for Bush is a bullet in your kid's head. I know it is harsh, but it is true. I am trying to help you out. Think before you vote. Now more than ever. It is life or death. Literally.
To all the Democratic candidates: Take a look at Gavin Newsom and what is happening in San Francisco. Have the brass balls to truly be an American. Marriage is a right not a privilege. It is time to see who really qualifies to run "The Home of the Brave."
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July 14th, 2004, 11:09 PM
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*Olivia*
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well said margaret
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July 15th, 2004, 12:27 AM
#3
Inactive Member
YES, WELL SAID..........
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
And yes I know i had my all CAPS on..........
Marriage is about 2 souls ........love is about 2 souls ........or more [img]redface.gif[/img]
Who is ANYONE to say, same sex marriage isn't valid.
In my humble opinion.....for those who say same sex marriage shouldn't exist...should consider themselves FORTUNATE, they are not the one in that predicament.
Who are ANY of us or govt to decide who should be allowed marriage....
Equal rights for ALL i say......anything else is discrimination.
This is all i will say on this cuz my friends here know how i feel on this issue, and i just can't keep doing this.
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!!
Rock on......... [img]graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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July 16th, 2004, 06:35 AM
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Inactive Member
Yes....Equal rights for all! Though to some it's a moral issue...And you have to respect that as well... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
**my three cents**
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July 16th, 2004, 09:30 AM
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Inactive Member
I totally respect the moral issue. But having friends in the gay community who don't necessarily support gay marriages don't think that the constitution should be tampered with. If they change it for gay marriages, what are they going to change it for next? This country has worked so hard to protect people from discrimination but now they want to put it "on the books" that its ok. The FMA didn't pass, supporters of it are upset and still making big deals about it. Thats all the community wanted, was no discrimination in the constitution. They arent out to change the way people think of family values. I know more gay couples who are comitted together and have children and they are stronger than a lot of us straight couples. I just wanted to make a point that we need to support the freedom and justice for all americans. THanks for listening
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July 16th, 2004, 05:09 PM
#6
HB Forum Owner
for a second there... i thought MMG was me... [img]confused.gif[/img]
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